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By andrew s 1965 Date 2012-03-19 23:52
I have wheel adapters
4 lug vw to 5 lug chevy.
old tires had flat spots and vibrated a little so i bought new tires this winter.
vibration may not have been all the tires and i am thinking it is the adapters.
wheel adapters like in picture ( not atual ones)
i assume they balanced tires like they should at town fair tire. will be bringing it back.
it shakes all about at 50-55 worse than with old tires.
I did put in a new speedo cable and had to take off front adapter to pull bearing/grease cap off.
I assume i put adapter on properly. Only went on one way i think.
I do have all new bearings and ball joints so i am really thinking it is the adapter.
Are these cheap adapters ?
i read previouse post where people had issue with adapters.
are there any good precision quality ones out there? I am sure the guy who put these on whent JC Whiney or something like that for cheap.
all i want is a good ride smooth ride and can not think of anything else it could be.
so if you been thru this before and think i need new one please let me know what brand you recomend and where to buy?

Thanks
Andy

By Brad H 1498 Date 2012-03-20 00:56
I've bought buggies with adapters, they all shook. My buddy put on a set of the stamped steel adapters wide 5 to VW 4 bolt, a couple of years ago. They shake HORRIBLY. All it takes is a bit of runout on a light car like ours and you'll get a vibration. Try playing around with tightening them and good luck.

brad
By andrew s 1965 Date 2012-03-20 01:09
Gee Brad, that is not what I wanted to hear.....kind of expected it.
If there are no good adapters how about inexpensive disc brake to go the whole way around.
I have a 1970 IRS.
Will these come with good rotors that will not shake?
Thanks again
By Jeffrey P 655 Date 2012-03-20 02:12
Why not just get some redrilled drums for the rear?

http://www.socalautoparts.com/product_info.php/brake-drum-bugghiasuper-beetle-rear-lug-chevyford-5x4-5x4-p-13057

And re-drill your 5 bolts up front?
By Tom & Kathleen I 639 Date 2012-03-20 12:28
Try lifting each corner of the car and spin the wheel in the air to see if there is any visible runout.  This would tell you how "true" the adaptor is, and see if the rims are straight also.  Tom
Tom & Kathleen Manxter #16, Kick-Out SS #16 & FiberFab Buggy
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By andrew s 1965 Date 2012-03-20 14:07
Tom,
i think rims are straight. Just had new tires put on.
in the opast they told me my old tires had flat spots
I however do not see any wheel weights
I think i am going to bring back to town fair tire to have them check the balance.
I will jack upo and spin like you said plus take off the wheels to make sure they all look okay.
Not sure they were ever that good to begin with
Any recomendation one reasonable priced disc braks the whole way around?
thanks
Andy
By andrew s 1965 Date 2012-03-20 14:09
Jeff,
so they only have for back not front?
i might consider new drums if they had front and back.
i did not see any but maybe missed it
if not i might go disc whole car
thanks
Andy
By Jeffrey P 655 Date 2012-03-20 15:35
No...I couldn't find any for the front.
By David L 2084 Date 2012-03-20 23:51
I am totally happy with the adapters I bought from Buggy Works, Indianapolis.  I believe they are from Empi, and with new tires and older rims, I have no vibrations........ 
By Brad H 1498 Date 2012-03-22 01:15
No wheel weights are probably the reason, especially since you don't get a vibration till 50-55. But check the tires for a "hop"

brad
By andrew s 1965 Date 2012-03-22 01:24
I found wheel weights on inside of rims tonight.
Will bring back  to have checked anyways.
I ordered new disc set for front today.
Holding off on back till I see how front go.
I am thinking it is the adapters.
Will know for sure in a few weeks after they arrive and I install
Thanks and will keep you advised
By andrew s 1965 Date 2012-04-23 14:29
I put disc on front and went with drums for the back.
all have new studs
Used so cal imports
Very reasonable price
by the time i was done with shipping, haveing studs put in and new wheel bearings it came out to 300 and some change for disc.
http://www.socalautoparts.com/product_info.php/disc-brake-kit-bugghiathing-front-fits-stock-drum-spindles-lug-dual-pattern-chevyford-5x4-5x4-p-13596
I was not sure if i was going to do disc on back or keep drums.
I put disc on first and was happy with how it stopped and front does not lock up like some people say in other post. Might be because the Allison is very heavy and some buggies might be lighter.
I bought new drums for the back after i did the front.
Needed to get rid of the adapters.
They were aluminum and studs started to strip and spin. Real pain cutting off lug......
it took no time to convert to disc in front with kit i bought.
Heavy duty and will hold up good.
I would recomend these to anyone
Link for the drums is above as recomended. Used So cal on recomendation and was happy
Thanks
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