By ManxRob Date 2011-01-24 04:19 Edited 2011-01-24 04:25
"Here is a 71 VW fiberglass Dune buggy. It is a Manx Style made by Ace Industries. Body is solid, and not cracked, and comes w/ tailgate. It also includes a Black fiberglass top to be installed, if you choose. It has a 1500 engine, and good tranny, both in working order. Pans are solid steel, and work fine for just riding, but would need replaced if restored for show. New battery, and fuel pump. Brakes will need attention, and lights reconnected (wires are there already, just not connected to the lights). Comes with a removeable tow bar. If it sells for asking price, I will include some wagon spoke type rims w/ tires, similar to ones in the pics. Alabama vehicle, sold with Bill of Sale."
The asking price is $1100
I didn't find 'ACE Industries' in the Buggy ID. Ithink the rear tailgate looks old-school cool.
By Rick M 333 Date 2011-01-24 15:25
That's different. Shame more of these oddballs don't have titles. That, I think, keeps many of them from being sold "properly".
By Jay H (X-20) (ManxVair CC) Date 2011-01-25 00:12 Edited 2011-01-25 00:38
Rick, some states don't even title vehicles at all. I know New Hampshire is one of them. The receiving DMV has no choice but to accept a bill of sale from a non-title state. I don't know about this seller's state though.
Oh.. I should add that many states now do not even worry about vehicles older than 10 years old having titles. My buggy was sold to me with the title and bill of sale, and when I went to register it, the clerk about laughed at me. She said I don't need no stinkin title, since it's older than 10 years old.... they only needed a bill of sale to register it. Go figure. I guess they figure possession is 9/10 of the law or something.
By Jeffrey P 655 Date 2011-01-25 00:15
Thats correct in Mass as well. I know when I used ITS they actually temporarily "registered" my Manx in Alabama and then "re-sold" it to me with that paperwork. I was able to get a Mass title with just that info.
By Rick M 333 Date 2011-01-25 03:50
I wish that were true here, Jay. At least in the mid-Atlantic area you don't even try for the DMV without a title. Well, let me be more specific: in PA if you purchase a buggy or a kit sans title you can apply for the 'special construction' title, but the car would have to pass all the current safety regulations in place by the state. It's all very subjective and expensive to have done. I'm going to be facing that at some point on both my projects and I'm not really looking forward to it.... so much easier with a valid title!
By Jay H (X-20) (ManxVair CC) Date 2011-01-25 12:35
Rick, I'm not doubting you on that one... just seems that the system is flawed. If all the work has been done to get the spec vehicle registered once before (just in another state... thus generating a state vin) Why then does the owner need to re-apply for the "process" again. That would have been done in the state when the vehicle was built.
I don't take a '65 corvair from one state to another and have to add crumple zones, shoulder belts, & front and side air bags. Nor does the new state require me to file off the vin number so they can give me a new one.
It's a flawed system for sure. (Now if the vehicle never was awarded a state vin, then it shows that it never did go through the process of an inspection or anything like that and that's a different story entirely).
By Rick M 333 Date 2011-01-25 15:30
The system is definately flawed! The guys that have registered and titled buggies as "Volkswagen" are taking chances every time they go out. All it takes is one state trooper with a chip on his shoulder to ruin your whole day. Vehicles that don't have original VINs (like my tube-frame Sterling) I can understand the process. After all, I don't want to take any chances with my safety, so I won't mind someone crawling all over the car once it's done. It could be a learning experience. But the nice thing is I'll only have to conform to "some" of the safety issues - like bumpers (yeah, they're there - it's called fiberglass ) since adding airbags, side impact zones and stuff like that are out of the range of the normal builder and PA thankfully recognizes that. Our legislators just want to make sure that all the basic systems are there and that there is safety glass everywhere... my mechanic turned his head filling out the form for my SR with the polycarb rear window...
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